i would be interested in other peoples perspective on the following idea ..
i have recently relized that i enjoy the use of spanking / hogties / not for the act itself

but rather because of the effect it has on the submissive ..
i have found my self experimenting and figuring out what puts the girl i am with in a submissive mood .. and i find great delight in putting her in << sub space >> .. so i have come to understand that these are only tools that help me achieve that desired result .. i have also found that repeated use of sucessful tools e.g. spankings ... some times bring the desired result and submissive behaviour by just talking about the idea that i may do it [ give a spanking ] .. if this thread makes sense to you .. then i would be interested in other peoples opionion ..

the challenge appears to be to determine what things put the girl i am with into that "" sub space ""

thanks for listening

Jim