Now this i find disturbing!!!!

[Dr_BuzzCzar]

I'm sorry but there were JUST AS MANY gaffs on the other side. I could list them but I don't see the point. It's pointless.

...I'll quote Katt Williams" Go ahead, name them, I'll wait."

Personally, I can think of two gaffes by the Dems right off. Joe Biden on the "There will be a crisis..." and Obama saying there were 57 states before catching himself. There are certainly others, I just can't recall them as I was much more entertained by the constant stream of late night monologue fodder coming from the right.

...and now the turkey pardon video by Palin. Oh, if there's a god he/she won't let Sarah fade way...please, please, please. She is entirely too much fun and continues to marginalize the Republican party even more.

another idle thought...wonder how long before the Republicans nominate someone that doesn't have that creepy grin/smile that Bush-41, Bush-43, and Sen McCain have? Huckabee(whose politics I abhor) has this great engaging smile and a sense of humor; old 9-11 Rudy has the creepy grin down pretty well; Law and Order Fred can't smile without a rehearsal; Sarah can, her smile is pretty good; Switcheroo Romney is convinced he has the whole package including the smile but he just seems overall really creepy to me.

[mkemse]

Who will be the Repbilcan Standard Bearer in 20102?? But will it make any difference dependong on how things go the next 4 years after Jan 20??

[RickBulow74]

I had heard somewhere that Palin is the Front runner. As soon as I find that link I will post it here.

[mkemse]

I had heard somewhere that Palin is the Front runner. As soon as I find that link I will post it here.

I heard the same thing also, if that is true the Republicans may have bigger problems then they thought they had
And Depending on the next 4 years, what happens in 2012 could end up being Academic by then

[mkemse]

Both sides had their share of stuff, just one side was more pronouced on a regular basis

[Muskan]

Sarah Mania!

You can dislike Obama, you can disagree with his policies, but he has never said something so stupid or allowed himself to be caught in a blatant lie. So many lies.

And what Sarah has to do with Obama?

[wmrs2]

Like I said, I am sure there are these things that come out if McCain would have won as well. This is not why I posted it.

My reason for posting it is to demonstrate that they did not know who is in control of the Congress or even who was in Congress, yet they did know who can see Russia from their house (even though it was said on SNL) and who paid an exorbitant amount for clothing.

My problem is that people worry about the celebrities and not about things which really matter like the issues and who represents them.

That being true, why did you bring up seeing Russia from their house and the exorbitant amount for clothing? You speak with liberal mouth and tongue in---I don't know where. Who do you think is paying attention to celebrities status here?

[wmrs2]

True but in a Poll taken right after the election most people felt that McCain was to negative and unlike Obama did NOT discuss the issues or his stanceon most, he did it from time to time but he seemed to spend more time on Bashing Obama then disussing the issues that drovethie election
Obama was always talking about what he planned to do, i do not want to hijack thisthread withthat thmeme but Obamam during the campigining at least always disussedtheissue and his plans, McCain seemed more intrested in Bashing his Opendnet, if for no other reason he had no plans to handle the issues at large, we know what he planned to do with Iraq, wait til wewin he gave over views of what he would lie to see but he neevr realy offered solutions he seemed only to enlighten voters by thelling us hesee's this or not, so did everyone what where specific plans in dealing withi issues

but back to the thread i so not want to hijack it

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You do admit then that Bush won the war in Iraq?

[wmrs2]

All this talk about who made the biggest mistake is rather pointless. It still thrills Dems to attack Bush. Yet in the finale analysis we know that the economy beat McCain and had their been a big bomb dropped on N.Y. Mccain would have won. Also, with Joe B. as V.P. and the mistakes he makes with tongue in ass, Sarah, Agnew, and Barney the Pig look like superior V.P. candidates. Just think what danger the country would be in if the Biden ever became President. Talk about dumb, Biden sets the record. God help us if anything ever happens to Obama.

[Belgarold]

All this talk about who made the biggest mistake is rather pointless. It still thrills Dems to attack Bush. Yet in the finale analysis we know that the economy beat McCain and had their been a big bomb dropped on N.Y. Mccain would have won. Also, with Joe B. as V.P. and the mistakes he makes with tongue in ass, Sarah, Agnew, and Barney the Pig look like superior V.P. candidates. Just think what danger the country would be in if the Biden ever became President. Talk about dumb, Biden sets the record. God help us if anything ever happens to Obama.

More talking points. McCAin ran an AWFUL campaign. He was all over the map. The Sarah Palin pick was a HUGE mistake and his "suspending the campaign" moment was ridiculous. I think he is one of the best the Republicans have and he LOOKED like a terrible leader, letting his handlers hold sway and letting Palin go Rogue.

And the gaffes from Palin don't bother me as much as her arrogance and inability to see that she needed to KNOW something to be in the public eye like she was. SHe IS Bush Lite.

Biden would be a MUCH better president than Palin would have made. Maybe not a fact, but certainly an educated prediction.

[mkemse]

In reality Mccaon is a RINO, (Republican In Name Only) Bush's failures killed Mccain and hisslecton of Plin only added insult to injury in the election, Mccain lost by latger thena 2-1 margin, that was a Mandate as was the of year elecrion in 2006 and in a recent poll Palin led all possible Candidates rgw republicans have for 2012 and she only had 29% so the Republicans have no clear curt leadwr right now for 2012

[Thorne]

the Republicans have no clear curt leadwr right now for 2012

Oh for cryin' out loud! I'm still trying to settle my stomach from the endless 2008 campaigning. Which started in 2006, didn't it? PLEASE let's not start talking 2012 already!

[mkemse]

Oh for cryin' out loud! I'm still trying to settle my stomach from the endless 2008 campaigning. Which started in 2006, didn't it? PLEASE let's not start talking 2012 already!

it ws just something brought up on meet the press yesterday thats all that the american way start talking 4 years before the fact

[Belgarold]

Hehehehehe. Thorne. I agree with you. I will happily leave it alone. LOL.

[wmrs2]

Hehehehehe. Thorne. I agree with you. I will happily leave it alone. LOL.

I will go along with that.

[Seroquel]

Even seeing it on English news (why do you guys show your election stuff over here?) I can tell Obama got elected because he had no real opposition. McCain chose to campaign with someone I wouldn't even trust to work in a call centre and there was no way Obama could have lost when some McCain supporters started being overtly racist.

[DuncanONeil]

He is not doing very well yet! He is losing support. And has yet to stop campaigning!

I still feel befire we all Rush To Judgement, Give Obma a chance to prove himself, then f he fails yes we critise him and point out and debate his failures, but he still has a few weeks til he even takes office, give him a chance to show what he can do, will do ect
Or can't do and won't do before we rip him apart, e are finiding him gulity beore the trial so to speak
Acorn was a joke, they had no reason to do what they did but the reality is of 52% who voted for him, i hardly believe that much of a majority over 50% was influced over actions like that, aain just my opion,
But let's see what he does before we condemn him

[DuncanONeil]

And Obama, the man now in charge thought there we 54 states!

Actual had it not been for Sarah Palin i would have voted for McvCasin ,but I have a real issue when someone who would be 2nd in Command in this Country thinksthat Africa is a NATION and not a Continent, i can't imgine how shewouls have handled other critical issue

buti do not want ot hijack this thread, just wanted to point that out

Let's see wha happens 52% of th voting public know why they voted for Obamam or is not the entie 52% enoughthat ther issues surroundig the way votes wre obtained becomes mute

[DuncanONeil]

The Bill Ayers issue is simple, Barack was 8 years old at that time, that was never mentioned

Obama was eight years old while sitting on a board with Ayers? Obama was eight years old while planning his first public politcal campaigns in Ayers house?

I think not!
And yes it does matter. Ayers is proud of what he did thinks he did not do enough and still has the same desires he did then!

[DuncanONeil]

No, please do...because I cant think of any. Yes, there were things the other side has taken out of context and tried to blow out of proportion, but it didnt work with anyone who uses his/hers brain.

Last May(2007), he claimed that Kansas tornadoes killed a whopping 10,000 people: “In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” The actual death toll: 12.
*Earlier this month(May 2008) in Oregon, he redrew the map of the United States: “Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.”
*Last week(may 2008), in front of a roaring Sioux Falls, South Dakota audience, Obama exulted: “Thank you Sioux City…I said it wrong. I’ve been in Iowa for too long. I’m sorry.”
*Explaining last week(May 2008) why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky, Obama again botched basic geography: “Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.” On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?
*Obama has as much trouble with numbers as he has with maps. Last March(2008), on the anniversary of the Bloody Sunday march in Selma, Alabama, he claimed his parents united as a direct result of the civil rights movement:
“There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.” Obama was born in 1961. The Selma march took place in 1965.

Is that enough?

[DuncanONeil]

Nobody claimed it was in the 60s

They recently did an interview withBill Ayers, who said he is NOT a friend of Obamam and he knows IObama no better then anyone else
Why is it that when everyone who mentioned that Obama hung outwith Ayers in the 60's NOBODY mentioned that Obama was all of either 6 or 8 years old, this was missed, but the fact that Obama was with Ayer was repeated over and over
My biggest issue with the McCain camp was that seemdd to spend mosto f their time critizising Obama for various reason, while Obamam disussed the issues
And as Obamam said "You attack your oppenenet and do not lay out your plans when you have no plans to lay out"
Does anyone yet know exactly what McCains plain are or were??

[DuncanONeil]

The entire focus of the mainia is to present all kinds of disparaging remarks about Ms Palin.
I believe that is called fear!

Sarah Mania!

You can dislike Obama, you can disagree with his policies, but he has never said something so stupid or allowed himself to be caught in a blatant lie. So many lies.

And what Sarah has to do with Obama?

[DuncanONeil]

Someone was kind enough to post the real quote. She never said from her house. Only that Russia can be seen from "land" in Alaska.
Does anybody here even really know where Russia is?

That being true, why did you bring up seeing Russia from their house and the exorbitant amount for clothing? You speak with liberal mouth and tongue in---I don't know where. Who do you think is paying attention to celebrities status here?

[DuncanONeil]

The 2008 campaign has yet to end!!!

Oh for cryin' out loud! I'm still trying to settle my stomach from the endless 2008 campaigning. Which started in 2006, didn't it? PLEASE let's not start talking 2012 already!

[Thorne]

The 2008 campaign has yet to end!!!

Yeah, I noticed! Oh, my aching gut!

[mkemse]

I'm interested in how Sarah Palin would have answered all those questions.

Have Katie Couric ask her

[Wiscoman]

Have Katie Couric ask her

I'm pretty sure she just has an index card she pulls random answers off of:

"You betcha!"
"Putin!"
"Moose chili..."
"Jesus..."
"Darn tootin'!"
"Terr'ists!"
"Socialism!"
"Death panels!"
"For Pete's sake!"
"Snow machines..."
"Boy howdy!"
"I quit."

[DuncanONeil]

One can only presume that such is the case because that is the one thing the President knows he is good at, pressuring "the man" to surrender to "the underserved community"

Yeah, I noticed! Oh, my aching gut!

[DuncanONeil]

Anti-thanks

I'm pretty sure she just has an index card she pulls random answers off of:

"You betcha!"
"Putin!"
"Moose chili..."
"Jesus..."
"Darn tootin'!"
"Terr'ists!"
"Socialism!"
"Death panels!"
"For Pete's sake!"
"Snow machines..."
"Boy howdy!"
"I quit."