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    It actually has nothing to do with orgasm denial, in fact its quite the opposite, a woman is more likely to achieve ejaculation after 2-3 orgasms than she is through other means; which btw vaginal orgasms (g spot) and female ejaculation is not directly related the way one may think it is.

    Grafenberg's reaserch has been added to by many others now, such as Robinson, Pietranton, Perry, Belzar, Whipple and others.

    In fact its become quite common knowledge for those that keep up with such things that all women have a "g spot" that if properly stimulated will result in orgasm.

    According to Whipple there are two reasons the "spot" was overlooked by so many physicians:

    A) it's on the anterior wall of the vagina in a region not normally palpated.

    B) It must be palpated in a specific fashion to illicet the appropriate responce, most doctors (and sexual partners) dont do "that" lol. Just rubbing against it often times isnt enough.

    In fact according to Whipple and others all the doctors who have looked for it using the correct anatomical directions found it in every woman they examined.

    Just becuase one has a G spot doesnt mean one ejaculates however.

    Reaserch has shown that only between 10% and 40% are capable of ejaculation.

    And G-spot stimulation isnt allways nessesary for ejaculation to occur.

    It has also been determined to not come from the Bartholin gland but does have somthing to do with the number, size and distribution of pariurethral glands.

    Also about 20% of women who ejaculate do so through the urethra rather than the vaginal opening, and not all of them squirt persay, some just excrete copious amounts of fluid. I am in the later group myself. Blushes.

    The link between ejaculation and g spot orgasms seems to be deep uterine contractions brought on by extreme sexual stimulation, which is simply more likely with g spot orgasms as opposed to clitoral ones alone and also twice as likely to occur after several orgasms have allready been achieved.

    Chemical composition of female ejaculate is not pee and has nothing to do with poor bladder control whatsoever.

    Most reserches say that women in the study groups reported the first few seconds of impending orgasm stimulation, and in paticular g-spot manipulation, produced a strong feeling that one is about to pee before changing to a sexual responce.

    Naturally most of us will pull back when faced with this sensation and hold back thinking we are about to pee when this area recieves the proper stimulation which some reaserchers think is why a quarter of all women have never had an orgasm at all let alone a g-spot one.

    Having a well-toned PC muscle also makes one more likely to ejaculate, not to mention improves orgasms in general.

    So break out the ben wa balls and start working out if you want to really have some fun trying to see if you can do it too ladies.
    Last edited by denuseri; 02-13-2010 at 10:12 AM.
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    Twice well spoke by denuseri! Orgasms have many different levels and intensities, as many as 8 levels with observable manifestations!

    The biggest impediment is trust. Technical applications although important is farther down the list! Play should be empowering to both! Trust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
    It actually has nothing to do with orgasm denial, in fact its quite the opposite, a woman is more likely to achieve ejaculation after 2-3 orgasms than she is through other means; which btw vaginal orgasms (g spot) and female ejaculation is not directly related the way one may think it is.

    Grafenberg's reaserch has been added to by many others now, such as Robinson, Pietranton, Perry, Belzar, Whipple and others.

    In fact its become quite common knowledge for those that keep up with such things that all women have a "g spot" that if properly stimulated will result in orgasm.

    According to Whipple there are two reasons the "spot" was overlooked by so many physicians:

    A) it's on the anterior wall of the vagina in a region not normally palpated.

    B) It must be palpated in a specific fashion to illicet the appropriate responce, most doctors (and sexual partners) dont do "that" lol. Just rubbing against it often times isnt enough.

    In fact according to Whipple and others all the doctors who have looked for it using the correct anatomical directions found it in every woman they examined.
    I refer to Leo9's mail here and also beg to differ: A thing repeated often enough gets to be 'common knowledge' - but not therefore always fact.

    'All the doctors looking found it every women they examined' - in spite of how difficult it can sometimes be - but the newest technology that can really 'see' the anatomy in there did not!

    Maybe what Whipple reports says more about doctors finding what they assume is there, than of the anatomy of women?

    The jury is still out in the question of the G spot.

    However, with better technology such as described in the article Leo9 is mentioning we start to get solid facts. I am convinced that this riddle will also soon be solved.

    I find it important to point this out, as it is all too easy to think that something is wrong with you if you do not seem to fit the latest description of how we are supposed to be.

    The link between ejaculation and g spot orgasms seems to be deep uterine contractions brought on by extreme sexual stimulation, which is simply more likely with g spot orgasms as opposed to clitoral ones alone and also twice as likely to occur after several orgasms have allready been achieved.
    You lost me there. The uterus contracts with menstrual cramps and during births, not during orgasm. It is the pubococcygeus muscle that contracts during an orgasm.


    Most reserches say that women in the study groups reported the first few seconds of impending orgasm stimulation, and in paticular g-spot manipulation, produced a strong feeling that one is about to pee before changing to a sexual responce.

    Naturally most of us will pull back when faced with this sensation and hold back thinking we are about to pee when this area recieves the proper stimulation which some reaserchers think is why a quarter of all women have never had an orgasm at all let alone a g-spot one.
    "let alone a g-spot one"??

    I remember all the silly discussions about whether one 'should' have a "clitoris" orgasm or whether a "vaginal" orgasm is the "right" one and "better" than the other, and if you are "normal" if you get one or not "good enough" if you get the other and which guy is best lover and is he "good enough" if his loved one gets one or the other, and everybody feeling wrong and lots of competition!!

    For Goodness sake, lets not turn this into that kind of sillyness! People generally have enough real sexual problems, no little thanks to religious puritanism, and do not need fictional ones.

    The point is to have what is experienced as a good sexual life for all involved. It is not like comparing clothes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
    For Goodness sake, lets not turn this into that kind of sillyness! People generally have enough real sexual problems, no little thanks to religious puritanism, and do not need fictional ones.

    The point is to have what is experienced as a good sexual life for all involved. It is not like comparing clothes!

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    I really dont know where that statment came from, I asked a 'simple' question and i have had a whole range of answers all of which i have found useful and informative to one degree or another.

    As far as I know none of us are medical researchers and all I was looking for is peoples opinions which I got.

    I, in no way think that any type of orgasm wins and that was not the intention of my question. It was pure curiosity and was not ment to upset anyone that cant have that kind of orgasm, as I too am one of those as far as I know and have no complaints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by symphony View Post
    I really dont know where that statment came from, I asked a 'simple' question and i have had a whole range of answers all of which i have found useful and informative to one degree or another.

    As far as I know none of us are medical researchers and all I was looking for is peoples opinions which I got.

    I, in no way think that any type of orgasm wins and that was not the intention of my question. It was pure curiosity and was not ment to upset anyone that cant have that kind of orgasm, as I too am one of those as far as I know and have no complaints.
    It wasn't aimed at your topic dear - sorry for the confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post

    You lost me there. The uterus contracts with menstrual cramps and during births, not during orgasm. It is the pubococcygeus muscle that contracts during an orgasm.
    I am going to STRONGLY disagree with you. Maybe your uterus doesn't contract with a strong orgasm. I've had contractions firm enough to feel like cramps due to an extraordinary orgasm.
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    quote
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    Originally Posted by thir View Post

    You lost me there. The uterus contracts with menstrual cramps and during births, not during orgasm. It is the pubococcygeus muscle that contracts during an orgasm.

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    I am going to STRONGLY disagree with you. Maybe your uterus doesn't contract with a strong orgasm. I've had contractions firm enough to feel like cramps due to an extraordinary orgasm.

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    I had no intention to insult anyone, and there is really no need to shout.
    I take what you say onboard, this thing is new to me but that is what these lists are for - to hear and learn new things.










    Quote Originally Posted by memphis420 View Post
    I am going to STRONGLY disagree with you. Maybe your uterus doesn't contract with a strong orgasm. I've had contractions firm enough to feel like cramps due to an extraordinary orgasm.

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